Guidance for those new to motorhomes about maintaining their leisure batteries

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Guidance for newbies to motorhoming about maintaining leisure batteries

Coming new to motorhomes has been a steep learning curve and we have made lots of mistakes (getting stuck in the mud on a poorly chosen grass pitch first time out for example).  The biggest mistakes to date have been, of course, to do with battery mismanagement and you can read about our ‘battery woes’ in this previous post:

https://wherenexthun.blogspot.com/2021/02/the-continuing-saga-of-motorhome.html 

 

We have been doing some reading up on battery management and now share our findings in this blog post, aimed at newbie motorhomers like us. 

We tackle the following questions about leisure batteries:

·        Why do we have a leisure battery in a motorhome?

·        What type of leisure batteries are there?

·        How do we choose an appropriate new battery for Bryony, our Autosleeper Broadway EB?

·        How should we charge our leisure battery during winter?

·        How should we look after and maintain our leisure battery so that it works effectively and lasts much longer?

 

Any useful references are listed at the end of this post.

 

Our leisure battery, which sadly, isn't now performing as it should 


Why do we have a leisure battery in a motorhome?

Our leisure battery is a Hankook DMC27 90Ah deep-cycle sealed lead battery, of calcium construction, 100% maintenance free and with a 4-year guarantee so it is a pity that we ‘inadvertently’ reduced it to 11.8v by misunderstanding how the EC700 unit and Sargent systems work in our motorhome!

It is located under one of the bench seats and the first thing any beginner needs to do is use the handbook to find the location of theirs.

 

Our leisure battery:

·        runs all the power in the habitation unit when not on an electric hook up (EHU)

·        runs the lights, water pump, toilet flush, heating, and anything else requiring a 12v charge e.g., trackers and alarms

·        anything we have plugged in when off grid (remember it doesn’t supply a 240v power, only 12v, so anything that requires 240v power/has a three-pin plug cannot be run off the leisure battery)

·        smooths out irregularities in power supply to prevent power spikes/surges

 

A battery works by:

·        storing power which we need to put into it

·        not taking any more power for storing when it is fully recharged

·        the power level in the battery falling as we use electrics in the habitation unit

·        slowly dissipating its power over time, irrespective of whether we are using it or not. (It will drain away even if you switch off EVERYTHING!)



Structure of a lead acid battery 

We should

·        never allow the battery power level to fall below 50%, and

·        always recharge it when it falls to 50% charge

 

Remember that a vehicle battery is different to a leisure battery:

·        Vehicle batteries start engines and so have thinner plates and are designed for short, fast bursts of high power to start up an engine and are recharged by the alternator

·        Leisure batteries allow a slow release of power over a far longer time period and then need recharging (deep cycling) - see later notes on charging a leisure battery.

·        Only AGM type batteries can be used in both roles

·        In most cases a vehicle battery cannot be used as a leisure battery and visa versa

 

A good breakdown of the internal workings of a leisure battery can be found at:

https://www.campingandcaravanningclub.co.uk/helpandadvice/technicalhelp/datasheets/guide-leisure-batteries/page2/


We found useful charts to put in our handbook (see below) and it is worth learning how to use a multimeter to check the voltage charge of your batteries, if you don’t know how to do it.



Note that a 100% fully charged battery is 12.7v. A 50% charged battery is 12.2v. Don’t fall into the trap that we did, of thinking that a recharged battery showing 13.5v means it has been really fully charged. This just happens when you charge a battery up. It may well show this higher voltage but that is temporary and four hours later it will be around 12.8v or so.

 

What type of leisure batteries are there?

The main batteries we quickly look at below are:

·        Open and Sealed Lead batteries

·        AGM batteries

·        Lithium-ion batteries

·        Gel batteries

 

Open and Sealed Lead acid batteries

These are the most common battery type, containing a liquid inside (electrolyte and are often known as ‘flooded batteries’). Lead plates sit in this liquid (sulphuric acid solution). ‘Open’ batteries have removable caps through which you can top up electrolyte fluid using de-ionised water, so that the plate tops remain covered. Exposed plate tops lead to sulphation and damage so that the batteries won’t hold their charge.

·        Advantages: cheapest option for a leisure battery

·        Disadvantages: require regular maintenance and checking of electrolyte levels, very heavy (eats into payload), become permanently damaged if they go below 50% discharge

Sealed lead acid batteries are maintenance free and designed to operate for a certain number of cycles.

·        Advantages: maintenance free, safer than open battery type

·        Disadvantages: more expensive than open lead acid battery, permanently damaged below 50% discharge, relatively heavy








AGM batteries

AGM stands for Absorbent Glass Mat. There is matting between the plates which absorbs the electrolyte solution in the battery.

·        Advantages: resilient, can be used as starter and leisure batteries and be discharged slightly lower than 50% without damaging them; cope better with vibrations and cope with more recharging cycles than lead acid types

·        Disadvantages: expensive and recharging must not go above 14.2v

Gel batteries

Similar to AGM technology, gel batteries are leak and maintenance free. Instead of matting there is thicker gel. They tend to be used more in vehicles where there is a high risk of crashing or damage e.g., jet skis, quad bikes etc. Electrically, gel batteries are unlikely to perform any better than wet acid type batteries.

·        Advantages: can be discharged down to 20% without permanent damage, good for frequent off grid motorhoming, generally longer service life in temperatures over 25C

·        Disadvantages: more expensive than lead acid or AGM batteries, perform poorly on high charge/discharge rates, must not be charged higher than 14.2v




Lithium-ion (LiFePO4) batteries

These batteries have many benefits over the others above and compared to lead acid batteries you get roughly double the energy density for half the weight.

·        Advantages: self-contained and maintenance free, contain own charge manager, cope better with frequent discharges down to 20%, last longer than most battery types, half the weight of other battery types, great for extended off-grid motorhoming

·        Disadvantages: significantly more expensive than other battery types




Finally, there are lead crystal batteries but we haven’t found out much about them. The electrolyte is in crystal form.

·        Advantages: self-contained so no spillage risk, can be very deep cycled, little risk of sulphation, can better tolerate heavy discharge loads e.g., from an inverter or from continuous charging from solar panels

·        Disadvantages: more costly than lead acid or AGM batteries


How do we choose a new leisure battery for ‘Bryony’?

We read that there are only three reasons to replace a leisure battery:

·        the old one has lost capacity and won’t hold its charge

·        the battery flattened badly and died

·        the battery is no longer suitable for your particular ‘power’ needs

Our batteries drained badly because we failed to a) isolate the vehicle battery and b) made a mistake keeping the EC700 unit on to get the ‘harmony app’ facility.

 

 

We seem to have ‘rescued’ both our batteries but in truth, only time will tell. We have tentatively booked a local trip in late April/early May down to Cornwall, lock down restrictions allowing, to do a little ‘off-grid’ motorhoming as a check on how both batteries cope.

But what if we do need to buy a new leisure battery?

We could do a straight replacement, like for like, or we could look at an alternative battery type; or we could get a similar one but of a higher rating.

How do we decide? What might influence our decision making?

Well, we could start our thinking by asking ourselves some questions:

·        How often do we ‘anticipate’ going ‘off-grid’ and for how long each time?

·        What ‘essential’ things in the motorhome use power off the leisure battery? (e.g., tracker, alarm etc?)

·        What 12v appliances do we have in the habitation unit and what ‘watt hours’ do we need from the battery to meet their demands? What battery capacity size will this dictate?

·        Do we want to consider a dual leisure battery set up? What impact would this have on our payload calculations?

·        What solar panel system do we have and what is its wattage outage? How effective is it in winter recharging our batteries?

·        What physical space do we have for the leisure battery – what are the dimensions of the current storage box – length, width, height? Is there safe space for a further battery or a bigger battery in the existing space?

·        How many times do we want to discharge down to 50% and then fully recharge a leisure battery? (known as cyclic life – the higher this is, the more work the battery can do during its life in your motorhome)

As you can see from above, a major consideration is thinking about how long your leisure battery lasts in terms of how many appliances can be used before it drops to its 50% discharge level; and in terms of the length of time to keep it before replacing it i.e., lifespan.

These deliberations partly depend on the power rating of the existing battery you have. Ours is a 90Ah capacity. So, we could drain off it 1Ah (Amp hour) for 90 hours or 10Ah for 9 hours. Of course, we wouldn’t though would we, because you can only allow it to drain down 50% before recharging, so in essence we could do 1Ah for 45hrs or 10Ah for 4.5hrs before needing to recharge it fully.

How long a battery will last in terms of years depends on how many of these discharge and recharge cycles the battery goes through. With proper care (topping up electrolyte levels etc, not allowing it to drop below 50% discharge and careful, steady recharging using a smart charger), then a leisure battery should last 4 years at least.

Go out and measure the physical space available for your battery before making any decisions because if you opt for a larger capacity battery it will probably be physically bigger.

 

Consider your battery capacity requirements. We personally think that 90Ah is probably the minimum you would want for a leisure battery and is fine if you mainly use sites with EHU’s and occasional one night off grid pitch ups. 100Ah or 110Ah would probably be better if you are planning lots of off-grid motorhoming. (We are not sufficiently knowledgeable yet to discuss the implications of getting a higher capacity battery than the one you might have. Given our experiences, we would certainly want to discuss with our dealer the implications of fitting a higher capacity battery with regard to how the EC700 unit and our current solar panel system would be affected).

If you read our ‘battery woes’ posts, you will already know that an alternative we are investigating is the addition of another solar panel so that both will supply sufficient charge over winter to both the vehicle and the leisure batteries. Then we won’t need to worry about them holding their charge over winter. We could do this and then replace the battery with a higher capacity one as well we guess.

One tip from the Camping and Caravan Club that they see as a rule of thumb is:

“The heavier the battery, the more lead it contains and therefore it has the ability to hold a larger capacity of charge. If you want a leisure battery to provide power to perform deep cycling, a heavy battery is a good place to start.”

There is a ‘verified leisure battery scheme’ to help perspective purchasers. The National Caravan Council (NCC) run the scheme and publish a list of batteries which meet the verification process.  The website for this is at

https://www.thencc.org.uk/Our_Schemes/ncc_verified_leisure_battery_scheme.aspx

The NCC have three categories of battery

·        Category A – high storage capacity, good for lengthy periods away from EHU

·        Category B – EHU used on majority of trips with occasional off grid work or power demands from power hungry devices

·        Category C – covers basic operation of habitation equipment and short periods off EHU


We must in fairness issue a health warning with this verification scheme though. On some forums there is a mixed reception to it. Some motorhomers’ approve of it and say it is useful; others argue it is very selective in its battery brand recommendations and that any verification has just been based on using the battery manufacturers actual promotional literature.

Another thing to think about when choosing a new leisure battery is what draw will each of the appliances you will be using have on your battery? Now we confess, because this now involves a little maths, one of us is rather hazy about what follows (he took five tries to get his maths ‘O’ level at a C grade!!). And one of us isn’t that interested in electronics and leaves it all to him!

Anyway, if you find out the wattage draw of each appliance commonly used in your motorhome and then estimate how many hours you might use it during a typical day, you can work out what capacity battery you might require for your needs. Remember to include the charging of devices such as smartphones and laptops in your calculations, as well as alarms and trackers.

For example, our 12v TV draws approx. 2.5Amp hours and on average we use it for four hours each day. This equals 4 x 2.5 = 10amp hours. A water pump might draw current of 0.7amps every time it is used. We might use the pump for thirty minutes a day so 0.7 x 0.5 = 0.35amp hours.

By totalling up the daily amp hours usage of our commonly used appliances, we can then work out how many Ah we use off-grid per day and therefore what capacity battery we might need. For example, if our total Ah use per day was 33amp hrs, and we were planning to be off-grid for two days that would be 66amp hours we would need from our leisure battery. That is a huge amount given we don’t want the battery to fall below its 50% discharge level either. Hence, we fit solar panels to give some charge back to our batteries during the day. So now we’d need to look at our solar panels and what charge they give to our batteries and factor that in as well.

Bottom line, we are still getting our heads around this part of understanding our battery system and so will be relying on our dealers to help us decide whether to uprate our battery, or add another solar panel, or do both!


How should we care for our leisure battery?  

And this is where we say “We wish we had known this beforehand”. But, as always, we are often heard to say “You don’t know what you don’t know”.

Let’s start with knowing how to check your battery levels:

·        use your ‘habitation panel’ if you have one. Our ‘Harmony’ panel gives us battery charge information although we haven’t always found it to be 100% accurate. We also have the ‘Autosleeper’s Harmony App’ on Steve’s smartphone

 


 ·        use a digital voltage/multimeter device to take the reading across the battery terminals. Make sure that all electrical appliances are switched off beforehand. (The easiest way, we find, is to quickly disconnect the terminals and then use the digital meter wires to check the voltage across the terminals).

Remember if you have driven the motorhome or had it recently connected to the mains or an EHU, you must let things settle for four hours as the reading will be higher than normal. Remember the chart at the start of this post? At 12v, a leisure battery is considered to have reached a discharged state.

Also remember:

·        the capacity of your battery determines how long it can provide power before it needs recharging

·        capacity is expressed in Amp Hours (Ah). The higher the Ah on the battery, the longer period the battery provides power for and the longer it takes to recharge fully.

·        there are of course, other factors that will affect your battery performance, such as: 

·        its age (5 years +?)

·        its size (Ah capacity to start with?)

·        your appliance consumption demands (how much power you use over what time period and how often you have to recharge it?)

·        the temperature (cold will lead to worse performance)


When caring for your battery:

·        charge it up immediately after buying it (in case it has been sat on a shelf for a year or two) OR ensure you buy this year’s battery (look for the date on it)

·        install it correctly using high quality connection clamps (not crocodile clips). Clean the terminals and coat them with a thin layer of Vaseline

·        Know which appliances are doing a constant draw on it e.g., trackers and alarms, or reversing cameras

·        also know what amp draw your other appliances do

·        monitor electrolyte levels in lead acid batteries regularly and top up with de-ionised water where necessary. The electrolyte should cover the top of the lead plates

·        make sure the gas relief tube off the battery is secure and not crushed when placed in the hab unit and that it is exiting the unit correctly

·        always wear correct protective clothing – safety goggles, protective clothing and gloves – you are dealing with acid

·        always recharge when the battery reaches 50% discharge

·        if taking the battery out of the motorhome, store it in a cool dry place and charge it fully before storing; then put it on a periodic maintenance top up charge throughout the storage time

·        never overcharge it i.e., leave it permanently on a mains connected charger – but you could leave it on a permanent mains hook up IF you have a timer clock plug within the set up – which allows you to leave it on charge for only four or five hours a day

·        don’t reverse the polarity by mixing the connection clips

·        don’t let anything cross the attached terminals so that it causes a short circuit – this is a fire risk

·        over winter (or during a prolonged lock down)

o   charge it before leaving it on site

o   attach a trickle charger to it

o   avoid leaving it on permanent mains unless you have an intelligent battery charger

o   consider bringing it home to charge up at least once per month but remember your tracker may be disabled if you remove it from the Moho

o   ensure that your solar panel is giving sufficient input to overcome any draws on the battery – so that overall, the battery does get topped up during the day even despite the weaker levels of sunshine in the winter months

o   switch off the EC unit if you have one!!

 


 How should we charge up our leisure battery during winter (and for that matter at any other time of the year)?

You can charge up your leisure battery in the following ways:

·        on a mains EHU every so often

·        as above but permanently on using a timer switch as outlined above

·        taking it for a long drive every few weeks so that the engine alternator charges it up to around 80% – long means an hour+ journey time. (We read somewhere that using the engine will never fully recharge a leisure battery but we can’t now find where we saw that point made so that we can verify this fact further - sorry)

·        using solar panels on the roof, or as a portable fold out set-up

·        using a generator (but since we have never used one ever, and assume it would need some form of inverter, we don’t feel remotely qualified in any way to comment on this method – sorry)

·        using a portable charger unit

 


 “The chargers in our motorhomes are not really so much battery chargers as power supplies designed to run the 12v equipment onboard” according to the Camping and Caravan Club. However, having an ‘intelligent charger’ onboard is a better option. This video below explains the differences between onboard/inbuilt and portable battery chargers for leisure batteries.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4gJeV3yNOo&list=WL&index=261

Horton (see references below) pointed out in his blog post that how efficient your onboard charger will be at charging your leisure battery, will depend on the age of your Moho.  He also acknowledged that some motorhomers don’t really regard the onboard charger as a ‘true’ battery charger since they rarely charge up the battery beyond 13.7v (and this wouldn’t therefore allow you to get the best out of a new gel or lithium-ion battery). On the other-hand if you have an ‘intelligent’ charger onboard, then this is likely to take these batteries to around 14.8v – much better.

From our personal viewpoint, given our distrust of our EC700’s erratic behaviour and the failure of our solar panels to overcome the draw demand of the tracker etc (see our previous posts on our battery woes) we think the best way to charge our leisure battery is to remove it, bring it home and periodically charge it up with a good quality portable plug-in battery charger (before returning it back to the van for a few weeks so that it can power the tracker once more). But this is our personal preference and many experienced motorhomers will argue the best way is to have the Moho on the drive at home, plugged into the mains on a timer switch.

Which ever way you decide to charge up your battery, note these points:

·        different types of leisure battery prefer different rates of charge

·        always check the rate of charge recommended by your battery manufacturer

·        long slow charges are better than short fast ones

·        before charging a battery, ensure it is disconnected from everything so that nothing interferes with the charge

·        flat batteries will struggle to absorb a charge initially and it may take a couple of hours before a charge shows on the meter

·        if a flat battery is recovered it is unlikely to ever regain its former performance level

 

So, what kind of portable chargers are there?

“You pay’s your money and you take your chance”.

Buying a cheap charger is a false economy because it could overcharge your leisure battery and cause ‘off-gassing’ and/or ‘boiling dry’. The plates get exposed, sulphation occurs, the battery dies – permanently. There is also a fire risk as well with the gassing. Remember sealed batteries cannot be topped up with electrolyte to replace that lost off in gassing!

There are different types of portable charger:

·        cheap, basic, unregulated chargers – the voltage can reach 15v as the battery reaches full charge; this is too high for low maintenance charging; and, there is nothing to drop this voltage - so, there is potential for damage. Such a charger would need turning off as soon as a 12.7v battery charge is reached

·        semi-automatic chargers – cut out at around 14.4v for low maintenance battery and 15.2v for a standard battery. Thus, they monitor the state of charge and turn off when the charge is reached.

·        Fully automated leisure battery chargers (also called multi-stage chargers) – are the best and most expensive. They can be left on permanently connected to the battery without overcharging it. Most have 3 stages – a constant current with rising voltage to the batteries maximum state of charge (bulk charge); then a constant voltage which is gradually lowered (absorption stage); and finally, a dropped voltage with steady current (the float stage)

A fully automated leisure battery charger for your caravan or motorhome will go through various stages to full charge and maintain the battery. – Image: C&CC


·        Good semi or fully automatic chargers will also check battery temperature, provide overheating protection and alter the charging settings accordingly

·        Our Ring charger, for example, has seven stages and includes a desulphation stage, a reconditioning stage and a soft start stage.

With regard to what the best portable chargers are – we don’t do recommendations as such and we don’t gain financially in any way from mentioning a product. However, from reading various forums, popular brands seem to be Numax, CTEK, Ring and Halfords. We read that the bigger your charger, the quicker it will charge your battery – a 16amp charger will charge a 100Ah battery from 50% to 100% in just over three hours whilst a 4Amp charger would take just over twelve.

There are off-grid options for charging your leisure battery but we feel it would be very cheeky of us to try and summarise these in this post given we have yet to do any off-grid camping in the motorhome. So, we refer you to this web page from the Camping and Caravan Club which seems to give a good summary of what can be done.

https://www.campingandcaravanningclub.co.uk/helpandadvice/technicalhelp/datasheets/charging-leisure-battery/page4/

We hope this post has helped you improve your knowledge and understanding about your leisure battery and what you need to do to maintain it in a healthy state so that it meets your needs and lasts you several years.

If you have any comments or suggestions to add, please drop us a comment in the box below. In the meantime, stay safe, stay well, keep planning your motorhome breakout for when lock down is lifted and remember, when you finally get out and about, ‘take care out there’.

Steve and Maggie

 

References

https://www.hortoncommon.co.uk/?s=leisure+batteries

https://www.campingandcaravanningclub.co.uk/helpandadvice/technicalhelp/datasheets/guide-leisure-batteries/page1/

https://www.campingandcaravanningclub.co.uk/helpandadvice/technicalhelp/datasheets/charging-leisure-battery/page2/

 PS: we have subsequently found this excellent and informative website below which gives a huge amount of information about batteries and also solar panels. Its worth a read at 

http://www.aandncaravanservices.co.uk/how-does-a-battery-work.php  Also  read: 

http://www.aandncaravanservices.co.uk/battery-technology.php

 

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